Kathy's guest today is one of her brothers, Terry Bracy.
Terry, or “Papa” as his grandchildren lovingly call him, has had a remarkable career in public
service and leadership that has shaped policies and programs still felt across the nation today.
He later went on to found a successful consulting firm, Bracy Tucker Brown and Valanzano, and
to chair the prestigious Udall Foundation—honoring the legacy of Mo and Stewart Udall and
empowering new generations of leaders in public service and environmental stewardship.
But beyond his impressive career, Terry is also a devoted husband, father, and grandfather—and
today, we get to hear from Papa himself about what truly matters most.