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Terry Bracy - Policymaker, Husband, Father, and Grandfather

Kathy's guest today is one of her brothers, Terry Bracy.

Terry, or “Papa” as his grandchildren lovingly call him, has had a remarkable career in public

service and leadership that has shaped policies and programs still felt across the nation today.

He later went on to found a successful consulting firm, Bracy Tucker Brown and Valanzano, and

to chair the prestigious Udall Foundation—honoring the legacy of Mo and Stewart Udall and

empowering new generations of leaders in public service and environmental stewardship.

But beyond his impressive career, Terry is also a devoted husband, father, and grandfather—and

today, we get to hear from Papa himself about what truly matters most.

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